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  A. Pre-bid Conference

Q.1 Can the consultants request for a pre-bid conference at the earliest possible date, with a presentation on the existing accounting, costing and suburban models currently operational in the Indian Railways

Ans. It is too late to arrange a Pre-bid Conference (we have mailed our RFP to your firm on 24th of June 2004). Even if we wish to arrange a Pre-bid meet at the request of firms, we have to provide sufficient time for others to participate. International travel arrangements for other firms generally takes a period of 3 weeks.

Moreover, ADB procedure for responding to the bids are elaborate and are well known (This is available on ADB website, as you must be aware. Any way, the Link is www.adb.org/Documents/Handbooks/Consulting/Vol_1/Consulting_Services.pdf ). Therefore, we do not find any justification/find it feasible to call for a Pre-bid Conference from our side.

B. Implementation of the Project

Q.1 What will be the scale of implementation that the consultants will have to support

Ans. Clarification to Query No.1&2 of Part II under sub-section 'Clarification 2' under 'Tender Page' section of our website www.accar.org may be referred to.

Q.2 What is the definition of 'the unit' on which the implementation has to take place, Is it defined as a division, a zone, a workshop or a production unit.

Ans. For the purpose of implementation the unit may be defined as a Zone/Production Unit/selected divisions and workshops.

Q.3 Which are the 25 likely locations for the implementation of the project.

Ans. The representative locations cover all Zonal Headquarters and Production Units and a few Divisions and Workshops. A list of locations is available in the organizational structure of our website www.accar.org.

Q.4 What is the definition of person months as stated in the Terms of Reference.

Ans. A person month covers a period of one month spent by the expert on the assignment. (Any firm which deals with consultancy should be aware of such terms, we presume.)

Q.5 How the person months different from the 38 months period defied in the Terms of Reference.

Ans. The 38 months period is the project duration while the total person month requirement is the estimated sum-total of requirement of individual experts in terms of number of months on the assignment.

Q.6 Are the person months stated in the RFP, representative of the time to be spent individually by each expert or is it for the team as a whole.

Ans. The person months for each expert as given in the staffing schedule is requirement for that category of expertise while the total number of person months required for the project is requirement for the team as a whole.

C. Existing Accounting Design

Q.1 What is the existing accounting architecture design of the IR

Ans. The existing accounting architecture of Indian Railways is activity based functional classification which may be referred to in sub-section 'Accounting System' under section 'Accounting Framework' of the website. Broadly, the revenue stream include coaching services, freight services, other coaching services and sundry other earnings. The revenue expenditure stream include expenditure through spending units organized in form of departments like General Administration, Civil Engineering Department (for track and civil structure), Electrical Engineering Department, Mechanical Engineering Department, S&T Department, Commerce Department, Operating Department and services departments like Accounts, Personnel, Stores, etc. Accounts are compiled at the base unit level like division and workshop and consolidated at each Zonal Railway. Zonal Railways publish their annual financial Accounts consisting of block account, balance sheet and profit and loss account. Accounts of Zonal Railways and other units under Ministry of Railways are further consolidated at the ministerial level and annual financial accounts prepared and published consist of block account, balance sheet and profit and loss account. The compilation of accounts is based on detailed rules of allocation incorporated in Finance Code of Indian Railways.

A separate set of accounts is prepared for capital expenditure on Indian Railways, the vertical compilation of which is the same as the revenue accounts. You may like to refer to our official publication such as Accounts Codes and Finance Codes which are available for sale at well-known book shops dealing with Government Publications. Any way relevant chapters of these Codes/Manuals have been given a link on our website under section 'Accounting Framework'.


Q.2 What is the system of accounting followed by IR

* Cash based accounting
* Accrual Based accounting
* Hybrid system of accounting

Ans. Indian Railways is following cash based accounting, which, through the use of linked accounts known as suspense heads, meets the requirement of accrual-based accounting. Government has constituted a Government Accounting Standards Advisory Board (GASAB). GASAB is expected to announce its policy about migration to accrual based system or not by the end of this year.

Q.3 Does the internationally accepted accounting standards mean the:

* IGAAP
* UK GAAP
* US GAAP
* IAS

If not, then has the IR earmarked certain internationally accepted accounting standard for compliances.

Ans. No. Indian Railways has not specifically earmarked any specific accounting standard so far for compliance. IR will adhere to the relevant accounts standards prescribed by GASAB. For Railway Traffic Accounting, which is a specialized field, IR may attempt to frame an internationally accepted accounting standard with the help of the Consultants and approach GASAB with a draft exposure document.

Q.4 What is the accounting basis used by the CGA for the accounts

Ans. CGA is using cash based system for accounts.

Q.5 How are the accounts complied by the railways consolidated in the principal accounts offices of the CGA

Ans. This is not part of this assignment. However, the reports and statements of accounts to be sent to CGA are prescribed and form part of the assignment.

Q.6 What are the constituents of the 5 major segments of the railways service providers for which the accounting separations in terms of the following:

* Sub activities/Services
* Revenue
* Cost

Ans. The consultant is expected to design the constituents of different segments as also allocation of revenues and costs among the different segments.

D. Audit Comments

Q.1 What sort of assistance would the IR like in the review of the audit comments

Ans. No assistance is being sought for by IR in the matter of audit comments. It is expected of the consultant to comprehensively go through comments made by audit on periodical accounting statements, maintenance of subsidiary books as well as annual final accounts of Indian Railways, particularly in context of deficiencies/inadequacies, and factor in the same while redesigning/reformatting the Proposed Accounting System for IR.

E. Existing Budgetary procedures

Q.1 What are the assumptions on which the budgetary estimation is done by the field units/Zonal units

Ans. Briefly, following factors are required to be considered for budgetary Estimation by the field units/zonal railways :

1. Throw forward from the previous year;
2. All expenditure, whether in cash or by transfer, the liability for which already exists, but which is not likely to be distributed evenly during the year, whether it is of a periodical nature, or because it is contingent on the receipt on supplies, or for any other reason;
3. Expenditure which is practically fixed and evenly distributed throughout the year;
4. Other expenditure which is likely to be incurred during the year but liability for which have yet to be incurred; and
5. The need to keep some amount as a reserve for meeting fresh and unanticipated expenditure.

It may be stated here that past actuals play a significant role in budgetary estimation.

Q.2 How are the Budgetary grants linked to the budgetary estimation.

Ans. Budgetary grants do take into account budgetary estimation made by individual units. However, it is clarified that budgetary estimation is not the sole factor in fixing budgetary grant for a particular unit under a particular item. Please refer to accounting framework section of our website.

Q.3 What are the reports generated to monitor the use of the grants

Ans. There are a number of reports generated to monitor the use of the grant both at base unit level like division and workshop and also at zonal unit level. These reports are also received at the apex level i.e. Ministry of Railway for periodic monitoring. The specific formats of the reports will be made available to the selected consultants in the course of the study of the system.
 

F. Traffic Accounts
 

Q.1 Why are Division sheets not being prepared for the traffic revenue interchanged between within the IR, while they are being prepared for the traffic revenue exchanged with deposit private companies

Ans. Para 3222 of sub - sub-section 'Earning Accountal' in 'accounting system' sub-section under 'Accounting Framework' section of our website www.accar.org may be referred to.

Q.2 As the Division Sheets are consolidated at Secunderabad, which leads to a time gap for actual accounting, how are the revenues and expenditure accounted for during such period.

Ans. The aspect of accounting referred to in the question will form part of the assignment as per Para 4.0 (a) at Page 58 of the RFP document.

G. Existing FMIS, IT applications and infrastructure

For each of the applications mentioned below (from i to Vii) please specify the following:

1. Technology/Infrastructure used (Platform, Hardware, Software, Tools, Web/application server, Database etc.)
2. Issues faced in terms of
* Scalability
* Configurability
* Reliability
* Security
* Extensibility and
* Performance
3. Level of integration with other applications and method of integration
4. Detail about the Application Architecture (J2EE or .NET etc.)
5. Bandwidth requirement
6. Number of users (current as well as expected/projected)
7. How is the application maintained (AMC's and level of support)
8. What is the kind of hardware/networking infrastructure being used for the applications
9. What are the connectivity options
10. Current software tools and licenses being used
1. Financial Management Information System (AFRES)
2. Payroll and independent Modules (PRIME)
3. Material management Information System (MMIS)
4. Passenger Accounting System (PAS)
5. Freight Accounting System (FAS)
6. Operating Statistics System (OSS)
7. Personnel Management Information System (PMIS)

Ans. The selected team which is awarded with the Consultancy will get adequate time to have an over view of FMIS.

Q.2 At what level of implementation are the above applications (from i to vii)

Ans. The table in sub-section 'Clarification 3' may be referred to under section 'Tender Page' of our website www.accar.org

Q.3 What is the extent of computerization at the division and zonal level within the accounting
organization framework? Is there any guideline/policy for the same.

Ans. At present, accounting work of a few selected divisions and 6 zones have been computerized with the use of a customized software. This is being ported in other zones of IR.

Further, Answers to Query 2(a) and 4(b) under 'Clarification 3' of our website ('Tender Page' section) may be referred to.

Q.4 What are the types of online (real time) reports envisaged using the new system

Ans. This is a task to be performed by the Consultant.

Q.5 Kindly specify the high-level network diagram and typically what is the extent of
networking and bandwidth available to the locations within the accounting system
framework?

Ans. The successful Consultant will get ample time to study this while performing Task b at page 59 of the RFP document.

H. Existing LOB/LOS and profit centers of the Railways

Q.1 Which are the existing LOB/LOS of the railways

Ans. This is the major task to be performed by the successful consultant upon engagement. Please read our TOR and Key drivers statement in the RFP once again.

Q.2 How is the revenue and cost recorded for the existing LOB/LOS

Ans. Refer to answer above.


I. Existing costing Module

Q.1 What is the existing costing model in place at the IR

Ans. The existing costing module of Indian Railways is based on fully distributed costs. We have a good Costing System now in IR. The Consultant assigned with the work will get ample time and opportunities to study our elaborate Costing Manuals and suggest desirable changes and improvements as per the requirements of various stake holders within IR.

J. Suburban Accounting Model

Q1 What is the existing accounting model of the Suburban railways

Ans. Presently, the suburban railway accounts are part of accounts of the jurisdictional zonal railways. However, a identification of certain items and costs pertaining to suburban railways is provided for in the existing functional classification, referred to in the section 'Accounting Framework' of our website. Consultant with their vast experience and expertise is expected to suggest improvements.

Q.2 How far is it accounting decentralize for the suburban railways

Ans. The accounts of suburban railways are not separated formally. These are part of the accounts of the division on which the suburban trains are operated. Formal separation is an important task to be performed by the consultant.

Q.3 Is the hybrid system of accounting followed vis-vis accrual based accounting

Ans. The accounting system for the suburban section follows the same principles as that of non-suburban section i.e. accounting policies are uniform for both suburban and non-suburban section.

Q.4 Does it have LOB/LOS defined

Ans. The definition of LOB and LOS is one of the main assignments of the consultant.

Q.5 What are the accounting classification/ chart of accounts followed by them

Ans. As stated earlier, the same accounting classification is applicable for both the suburban and non-suburban services. However, a clear identification of major items of expenditure as well as of earnings for suburban section is provided for in the existing functional classification referred in the accounting framework section of our website. Selected consultant will have ample time to study this, while performing the assigned Tasks.

Q.6 How are the financial statement consolidated with the IR financials

Ans. As stated earlier, the revenues and costs pertaining to suburban section are part of the accounts of Indian Railways now. Separation and consolidation of suburban financial statements will be required as per segmental accounting needs of IR. However, for IR, the Suburban System Accounting will be integrated with the Financial Statements.

Q.7 How is the cost of the common services allocated

Ans. Detailed guidelines have evolved over years based on performance parameters as well as surveys conducted for allocation of common costs between suburban and non-suburban section. Consultant will have to fine-tune several aspects on this issue.

The examination of the basis and underlying principles of these allocations of common costs is part of the assignment and is required to form part of the recommendations to be made by the consultants.

Q.8 With the launch of MRVC as a separate SPV will the transactions relating to the use of common facility be treated as inter company transactions

Ans. Please refer Task 3 (Page 60 of the RFP document) of the Terms of Reference.

Q.9 What is the costing module followed by the suburban railways

Ans. There is no separate costing module followed for the suburban railways. As stated earlier, the existing costing module is based upon fully distributed costs.

Q.10 What is the current subsidization policy being followed by IR

Ans. Subsidization Policy is not part of the TOR.

Q.11 What rate of return should be charged on the capital included in the cost estimates

Ans. This would form part of the recommendations to be made by the consultant.


K. Pricing of Cost Center Based Services

Q.1 Which are the Cost center based services in the Indian Railways

Ans. This is a task to be performed by the Consultant.

Q.2 Why have they been assigned as a cost center basis

Ans. We wish to hear this from the appointed consultants while making their recommendations.

Q.3 Is the cost of these services currently built into the passenger and freight fares

Ans. Yes.

Q.4 What will be the relevance of introducing the pricing for these centers

Ans. Relevance of transfer pricing needs no explanation.

Q.5 Is there a concept of inter departmental pricing already in place at the IR

Ans. Yes. But we will need competent advisories from the appointed consultant.

Q.6 Which are the departments for which inter departmental pricing is used

Ans. This has been covered in the reply to Query 5 above.